Time to Grow Up

I came across this at Mike Cope’s blog the other day:

I’ve mentioned before the three views one can have of parents: a child’s view (my parents are perfect and have no faults); an adolescent’s view (my parents are embarrassing imbeciles); and a mature adult’s view (my parents have strengths and faults).
Those are the same views one can have of a religious heritage.

It got me thinking of us ICOC & ex-ICOC folk.
It seems to me that it’s time for us to grow up.
There are some out there who are still children. The ICOC was all good, nothing wrong. The past 3 years were from Satan, a distraction and it’s time to get back to it. All of it – the discipling, the hierarchy, the evangelist control, the ‘we’re the kingdom’ mindset, everything.
Others are like adolescents. There was never anything good in the ICOC. This is from folks who were immersed in it for years, but now it’s the spawn of Satan. Everything that comes out of an ICOC church is evil, their motives are selfish, they are out for your money and anyone still involved is dumber than a box of rocks and duped.
Time for some of us to grow up. Our ICOC heritage is a blessing and a curse. Many were saved, the gospel was preached, many nations were reached, HOPEworldwide was formed, much good was done. But we must be honest, we were pretty stupid, arrogant, hurtful and even duped at times too. Let’s learn from our mistakes and even laugh at our former foolishness, but please, let’s not pretend it was only either a bed of roses or a torture chamber, OK?

And Now, the Rest of the Story

I promised you some follow up on our UP process. Actually, this is more my reaction to the end of the process.
Wednesday night April 26th, after the church had a chance to voice their opinion on the UP via the Likert Scale vote, our minister sent an email out detailing the results and saying that since the congregation’s general opinion roughly mirrored the leadership’s, he would be sending an email to the Unity Porposal Group at noon the following day (the 28th) indicating our signing, unless there were objections.
It was at this point that my emotions went into overdrive. It felt that the careful deliberate process went into high gear all of a sudden. 15 hours from ‘vote’ to signature, after a month of deliberation! I had a hard time getting to sleep that night, my mind in overdrive about how we needed to anylize the results more, think about what they mean, etc. I did eventually sleep and after waking up I sent a hasty email back to him expressing my concern. I was also concerned that about those who were not at midweek and therefore hadn’t yet been heard.
His response, in a word, was “OK.” For one, he agreed that we should try to capture the remaining opinion on the matter, just as we had done on the elections for the board of directors. But he also indicated that if I felt strongly about it and it was going to make me struggle to act so quickly, we would wait. Even though in his mind the process had run it’s course and the results were not disputable, waiting a few days for my sake would not hurt anything.
After I had time to pray and to go over the numbers myself, I realized that there was no way to intrepet them other than the church, on average, was in favor of signing the proposal. Yes, those who were against felt more strongly about it, but averaging the scores still was in favor of signing. The ony way that the results would be changed is if nearly all the remaining votes were ‘not in favor’ and that was unlikely. My reaction was emotional not rational.
After my prayer time, and therefore in my right mind, I sent him this email:

Thank again for this, it does my heart good.
I could go through my analysis and my perspective, but I actually don’t think that’s as relevant. We can go over them later, it might be good. It will be good to talk, but I wanted to put my thoughts on ‘paper’ first because it helps me crystallize them.
The bottom line is that this decision hurts. Not because of anything anyone said or did or because I feel that the process failed, but actually probably more because it succeeded. We got the perspective of the church, and the church (on average, as a whole, more or less, however you want to put it) is in a very different place than I am. I told BG last night that the lack of questions was surprising to me and it just confirmed that I’m on the fringe. He responded “You and me both, brother”
And that’s what hurts, being – or at least feeling – outside of the mainstream, on the fringe. It hurts and it’s scary. If I’m on the edge, what happens if the edge moves and I don’t? If I’m on the edge, will I be left behind if the church moves? The UP showed me that there’s a feeling within our movement that we need to go back toward where we came from. I have no desire to go back in that direction personally. In some ways, though I treasure my heritage in many ways, I don’t feel like I, personally, want to be a part of ‘the ICOC’ anymore. The ‘vote’ (and I use quotes because I know it’s not really a vote, but I don’t know what else to call it) shows that most of my church does want to go back. And then a part of me wonders if I belong here.
PLEASE, don’t read anything more into that than just what is stated, I have no desire to leave or even explore leaving. I fact, on many levels I feel more tied to the CCOC than before. I’m just sharing my heart and my hurt. Given that, I think in addition to contacting the third of the church that did not get a chance to be heard, it might be prudent to contact the 10 folks who expressed strong feelings against (assuming we know who they are) and see how us moving forward with signing would make them feel. I just want to make sure that, while listening to the 99 we don’t leave the one behind. If you agree and I can help in that, I will. It may be appropriate to have one who feels as they do talk to them.
I have absolute confidence that this is what you intend – not leaving anyone behind. You have shown me nothing but grace through this disagreement and others, even though I’ve given you reasons not to, and for that example I am grateful. You’ve responded to my needs, even when born of emotion (and producing in you frustration 🙂 ) and made sure I’ve been heard. Thank you.
I understand that at the end of this, unless an overwhelming majority of the remaining folks are not in favor of signing, there is no logical reason we should not sign. Only if it is going to cause one of us on the -2 side harm, should we perhaps reconsider. Of course, what then if not signing does the same for someone else on the +2 side … Ugh.
I wish there was an alternate choice besides yes or no. I wish we could say ‘pass’, we are neither in favor or apposed and just want to keep doing what we’ve been doing. The Toronto Church has done the closest thing to that, but in doing so, of course, they are still saying ‘no’. You can read their gracious response to the UP here (bottom half of the page).
Anyway, I’ll work through my emotions and we will move on. I understand that means signing the agreement before the week is out.
Thanks again for listening.

I was the the only one to react and ask for the signing to be delayed. I was the only one to express this kind of frustration. Yet, because of the emotions of one of us, all of us waited. In this one action we lived out Romans 14, and for that my heart is pleased. Not so much that my emotional needs were taken care of, but that we are a church that would do that for one of us.
We got a chance to talk later and he reasured me that not only was my perspective valuable, it wasn’t unique. My take on the UP itself may have put me in a small subset of the church, but my thoughts on the broader and more important issues of unity, cooperation with other churches, reaching out to non-ICOC church and so on were shared by most if not all of the church. The differences were not fundamental but ones of interpretation and implementation. Not should we persue unity, relationships with other churches, etc, but how should we.
It’s interesting that , much like Pinakidion, I found that some share the same thoughts as I but came to very differnt conclusions. I was concerned that the UP would end up in division and a return to old ways and could not support it for that reason. Our minister had very similar concerns, yet felt it best to sign with that awareness and be watchful. I desire to build bridges to other RM churches and could not support the UP because I saw it as building walls between us, yet another in our fellowship who longs for such relationships as well was a strong supporter of the UP (writing in a +2.5, that’s how strongly they suppported it!) It’s amazing thing how people with the same vision & goals can come to very different conclusions on the methods.

Housecleaning

A couple more housecleaning things. I know how you readers love posts about the inner workings of my blog!
First, I updated the link to Cerulean Sanctum. Dan’s ditched Blogger for WordPress and got a new address in the process. Update your links, if you’ve got ’em.
Second, I’d like a little help form any Javascript gurus who are reading. I understand that my EasyComments script that provides the comment formatting and live preview on the entry page doesn’t work in FireFox. If you use FireFox, hold your breath, say a prayer, double check your virus software (I know how you FF guys are. 🙂 ) and launch IE to see what you’ve been missing. Cool, eh? Anyway, I’d like to know why it breaks in FireFox. If you understand Javascript, take a look at the code and let me know what you think. I don’t know beans about this and only cobbled this together by wild guess and trial and error. I suspect it’s a real mess.
That’s all for now, thanks.
[EDIT:I guess it would be good to give you the actual address for Dan’s new site. The old is http://www.dedelen.com/cerulean.html the new is http://ceruleansanctum.com]

Parable in Practice

From The Week magazine in the “It wasn’t all bad” section, just inside the cover [My comments in brackets]:

Six months ago, Rev. Michael Eden of the St. Peter and St. Mary’s Church in Stowmarket, England, decided to raise money to repair the 14th-century structure. Invoking the biblical story of the talents, Eden distributed about $18 apiece to 90 parishioners [That’s about $1,620 – salguod], hoping they would “go forth and multiply.” They did just that, returning with more than $9,200 [That’s about $102 each – salguod]. One congregant used the money to buy baking ingredients, and made more than $750 selling cakes and scones. Another earned $138 by selling scarfs made from wool she bought. “God gives us all sorts of things,” observed Eden, “but does not expect us to waste them and do nothing.”

Pretty cool, eh? I would have loved to hear his charge when handing out the money.
Oh, and I wonder, did anyone come back with only $18 after hiding it in a hole in the ground?

Bye Bye Dilbert

I’ve pulled Scott Adam’s Dilbert Blog from the blogroll. I’ve been close to doing it for several weeks since he started running ads for a dating service that touted sex as a selling point, but this week I noticed my pop up blocker going nuts whenever I visited. That was the proverbial staw, and he’s gone.
Scott’s funny and all, but I’m tired of trying not to look at the right side of the screen and I don’t need the hassle of pop up ads. And I’m certainly not going to promote or endorse either.

It’s Decided

Well, it is decided. After over a month of deliberate, open dialog, the Columbus Church of Christ will sign the unity proposal. While I am sad and disappointed in that decision, the process that lead to it tempers my emotions quite a lot.
We began with a discussion at our leaders meeting back on April 2nd. Nearly all of the family group leaders and others present had read the proposal and we simply went around the room expressing our thoughts. I was surprised that most people at that meeting had some level of reservation or concern with it. The reasons for concern and the level of it varied, but based on what I heard at that first meeting, it seemed that there was not a majority of support for the agreement.
Next, we asked the membership to read it and we had a discussion at our house church midweeks on the 12th. Then, the leaders came back together on the 23rd for a little more discussion and a ‘vote’. It was not a simple yes or no vote, but what’s called a Likert Scale question. The question was:

Are you in favor of signing the Unity Proposal?
+2 -Strongly in favor
+1 – In favor
0 – neither in favor or not in favor
-1 – Not in favor
-2 – Strongly not in favor

The idea was to capture the strength of opinion as well as the simple yes or no. This process was then repeated at our congregational midweek on the 26th.
The results were that more people wanted to sign than did not. For the leadership group, close to 2/3 were in favor, about 1/4 not and the rest neutral. Those not in favor had a stronger feeling than those in favor, but the result was an average of about +.54.
For the congregation (without leadership), about half were in favor, slightly under a third neutral and the rest not in favor. Again, those not in favor tended to feel slightly more strongly about it, with a resulting average of +.41. The goal of polling the congregation was note to have a democratic vote on what to do, but to get the pulse of the church, to give everyone a chance to be heard (2 chances, actually) and to make sure that the leadership’s consensus & decision was not out of line from the church as a whole.
Combined then it was a little more than half for, a little more than a fourth neutral and the rest against. The overall average was +.45.
And so we sign, I think the email went out today. Am I disappointed? Yes and no. Yes, because I had hoped for more, I had wished that we could somehow rise above this. It seems that we aren’t there yet and that makes me sad. Perhaps I should instead be sad that we as people continue to fail to rise above these sort of things.
But I am not sad about how we went about this. Everyone who wanted to be heard was heard. We stopped the process when just one of us needed to pause to collect his emotions (You’ll never guess who. More on that later). We did not find agreement, but we reached a consensus. I know ther are ways that we could have perhaps done better, but not much.
As our minister has said this is not the end of our striving for unity. It wasn’t really the beginning either, just a step on the road. It was potentially a perilous one, and even if I don’t like the result, I think we handled it well.

Scheming Swindlers

A shameless rip off of another’s shameless rip off:

The matter is quite simple. The Bible is very easy to understand. But we Christians are a bunch of scheming swindlers. We pretend to be unable to understand it because we know very well that the minute we understand we are obliged to act accordingly. Take any words in the New Testament and forget everything except pledging yourself to act accordingly. My God, you will say, if I do that my whole life will be ruined. Herein lies the real place of Christian scholarship. Christian scholarship is the Church’s prodigious invention to defend itself against the Bible, to ensure that we can continue to be good Christians without the Bible coming too close. Dreadful it is to fall into the hands of the living God. Yes, it is even dreadful to be alone with the New Testament.

Soren Kierkegaard

So, do you study to conform yourself to God’s way or defend your position?
Thanks to Greg for the quote.

New Links

OK, now that I’ve trimmed the blogroll a bit, it’s time to add to it. Here are a few new sites to the list:
Stories about God
This site from Mike Boyink has enormous potential, I think. It’s in a bit of a slump right now, as Mike has admitted, but it’s a tremendous idea. Even though there’s been no new content since December, I’m linking it to show my support for the site and hoping that others will be inspired to go tell their stories. Not to mention to hopefully prod Mike to put some effort into it (hint, hint) We all have stories. Stories that will inspire others and shine the light on God’s amazing goodness. Those stories need to be told.
Boyink Interactive
Mike Boyink’s business site and blog about web design. Mike wrote an amazing piece at Heal Your Church Website on what a church web site should be a while back (which lead to Stories about God). I’ve been popping in his site occasionally ever since. He’s a car nut too, with a ’64 Jeep CJ6 and a ’66 Rambler.
Stephen Meeks
Stephen is a frequent contributer to the New Wineskins blog and I love his posts. So I looked him up and found that he had a blog of his own. He lives on a farm and writes a lot about the spiritual insights gained from that experience.
Preacher Mike
I’m probably one of the last Church of Christ bloggers to link to Mike Cope’s blog. I see his name everywhere on COC blogs and he’s always spoken of with respect. He’s the preaching minister (I think) at the Highland Church of Christ in Abilene, Texas.
Nothing Important To.us
This is the blog of fellow ICOC member from the north east, Jeff Morris – aka Danny Kaye. Jeff’s his real name, but he tends to comment as Danny at different blogs. I came across Jeff’s blog not through any ICOC or COC channels, but from seeing his comments at the Thinklings.
Unveiled Face
Mick is from Australia and a member of an ICOC church, or at least what used to be one. He comes by here every now and again to leave a comment. What’s nice about his blog is that he’s blended into the blog community. His site does not (unlike mine to often) deal with ICOC issues nor does he talk about it much. He’s building bridges into the rest of the community, which is a good thing I think.
True Delta
I came across this via Autoblog and I love his blunt analysis of consumer automotive research like Consumer Reports and JD Power. He’s started an ambitious effort at a new way of gathering and analyzing automotive reliability data. Sounds promising. He’s also written over 400 reviews, mostly of cars, at epinions.
That’s enough for now.

Blogroll Update

Well, now that things are back to normal here with the new host, I need to do some house cleaning. Several sites on the blogroll are no longer active for various resaons, so I’ve removed them.
My friend Paul (pfredy) has given up on his personal blog. You can still find him at his poetry blog, The Pen Master. He’s been writing there since last July.
Paul’s buddy and long time salguod.net JohnE, seems to have given up his blog. He hasn’t written anything there since mid-February. I hope I’m wrong and he’ll be back.
The Happy Husband is still at it, but he’s busier being a new dad than blogging about marraige. When I found his site, it sounded great, a blog that “celebrates marraige”. But shortly after I added them to the blogroll, he and his wife had a baby. His blog has, understandably, taken a back seat. IN fact, just today he announced that updates will be few, so I’m taking off the roll for now.
Lastly, I’ve taken down A Ministry of Reconcilliation. It seems that they’ve moved on to other things as they’ve had only two posts since late November.
I have some new links to put up, but that will have to wait until later.

Welcome, Part 2

OK, I guess I may have been a bit premature in declaring that everything was back to normal. I came home today and fired up my laptop and the old site appeared. Huh? Maria, on her laptop in the same room, on the same internet connection, fired up her browser and got the new one. OK, that’s weird, let’s reboot. After the re-boot, I got the new one again. It seems that there are still a few computers on the web that haven’t gotten the memo that salguod.net has moved yet.
Anyway, if you are just now discovering that the site is up and running, make sure you scroll down to see what else is new. I thought it was live for a couple of days now, and I’ve been posting away. OK, well, I’ve posted twice, but they were good. Honest!

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