{"id":963,"date":"2009-08-26T12:23:36","date_gmt":"2009-08-26T12:23:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/salguod.net\/blog\/2009\/08\/romans_930-1021_-_by_faith.shtml"},"modified":"2021-05-29T02:44:41","modified_gmt":"2021-05-29T02:44:41","slug":"romans_930-1021_-_by_faith","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/salguod.net\/blog\/2009\/08\/romans_930-1021_-_by_faith.shtml","title":{"rendered":"Romans 9:30-10:21 &#8211; By Faith"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>I&#8217;m nearing that &#8216;Place Where I Can Stand&#8217; mentioned in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.salguod.net\/weblog\/archive\/2009\/08\/a_place_where_i_can_stand.shtml\">my last (non-FfF) post<\/a>.  More on that later, first, on with my study of Romans.<\/em><br \/>\nRomans 9:30-33 &#8211; See here, the Gentiles attained something they did not pursue.  How?  One answer is simply that God gave it to them, and that is true.  They didn&#8217;t <em>earn<\/em> it.  But, that&#8217;s not what this passage says.  It says that they attained it by faith, and Israel didn&#8217;t because they didn&#8217;t pursue with faith.  So, yes, it is God that grants righteousness, but our faith plays a role.<br \/>\nRomans 10:1-4 &#8211; This passage nicely merges the two seemingly divergent topics.  It is God who offers up righteousness, on His terms and His terms alone.  We can then choose to submit to it,in faith, or try to achieve our own.  Israel chose the latter, a path that is doomed to fail as it has from the day Adam and Eve left the garden (actually, from the bite of the apple).<br \/>\nRomans 10:9 &#8211; In my experience, one of the most ill-used verses in the Bible.  Many use it to justify a faith that is empty believe. Belief = salvation.  This of course, ignores the rest of the new testament that expounds on the implications of this faith in the radical man, Jesus.  True faith is transformative, true faith moves us off our course, true faith radically changes us, true faith has on going, life altering, dope-slap-like implications on what we do on a regular, never ending basis.  Any faith that allows us to live just as we had been is faith in something other than Jesus.<br \/>\nThe other side (and where I&#8217;ve been in recent years) tries to pretend that it doesn&#8217;t say what it says &#8211; faith in Jesus saves us.  They point out that the context is a discussion on the differences between Jew and Gentile, which is true but beside the point.  They want to say &#8220;Yes, but &#8230;&#8221; and add in all kinds of things.  Faith and .. baptism, obedience, purity, holiness, zeal, conviction, righteousness, etc.  All of those things are important, but they all &#8211; <strong>ALL<\/strong> &#8211; rise from the root of faith.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m nearing that &#8216;Place Where I Can Stand&#8217; mentioned in my last (non-FfF) post. More on that later, first, on with my study of Romans. 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