{"id":548,"date":"2006-08-31T07:52:43","date_gmt":"2006-08-31T07:52:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/salguod.net\/blog\/2006\/08\/hebrews_6.shtml"},"modified":"2021-05-29T02:45:37","modified_gmt":"2021-05-29T02:45:37","slug":"hebrews_6","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/salguod.net\/blog\/2006\/08\/hebrews_6.shtml","title":{"rendered":"Hebrews 6:1-12"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hebrews 6:2 &#8211; Hmm, the ESV says &#8220;instructions about <em>washings<\/em>&#8221; instead of &#8220;instructions about <em>baptisms<\/em>&#8221; like the NIV (my emphasis).  The footnote says &#8220;Or baptisms (that is, cleansing rites)&#8221;.  As a COC&#8217;er, I&#8217;m sensitive about that kinda stuff, but it makes me wonder.<br \/>\nHebrews 6:1-2 &#8211; The list of elementary doctrine here is interesting.  Most who call themselves Christian would understand the inclusion of faith, repentance, resurrection and eternal judgment.  Less, perhaps, baptisms &#038; laying on hands.  Laying on hands  makes me wonder, it&#8217;s not something I&#8217;ve experienced in any of the churches I&#8217;ve been a part of.<br \/>\nHebrews 6:4-6 &#8211; I have understood these verses to refer to someone who left the Lord, as an explanation that one can give up their salvation.  Taken alone, they seem to say just that.  But putting them in the context of &#8216;leaving the elementary teachings&#8217;, that understanding gives me pause.  It doesn&#8217;t make sense that Paul was saying &#8220;Let&#8217;s mature, because if you fall away you&#8217;re doomed.&#8221;  I dunno, maybe, what do you think?<br \/>\nHebrews 5:11-6:12 &#8211; There does seem to be an undertone here that ties our salvation with our depth of understanding.  That bothers me a bit, as I would have said that you don&#8217;t need to be deep to be saved.  I&#8217;m not sure yet what to do with that.  Am I reading too much into  the passage?  Just because my understanding makes me squirm, does not mean I should dismiss it, but neither should I dismiss my misgivings.  Any thoughts?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hebrews 6:2 &#8211; Hmm, the ESV says &#8220;instructions about washings&#8221; instead of &#8220;instructions about baptisms&#8221; like the NIV (my emphasis). The footnote says &#8220;Or baptisms (that is, cleansing rites)&#8221;. 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