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I’ve spent enough time here pointing out his faults and sins, it’s only fair that I do the same when I see him get it right. From the latest article<\/a> from Kip McKean:<\/p>\n

I am so sorry to everyone who is striving to be a dedicated disciple of Jesus. Please forgive my arrogance and disrespect in the Portland Bulletin articles and in my Sunday sermons, which are online. I do believe there are church leaderships around the world that are trying very hard to restore the lordship of Christ and discipling. Particularly encouraging are recent reports I have heard from around the globe about the great progress being made in: Florida, Maryland, Texas, Virginia, Mexico, Central America, Africa, India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. I’m sure that there is even more good news, but these are just a few that have come to my attention recently.
\nI am deeply sorrowful to all my brothers and sisters in the mainline Churches of Christ who are striving to seek first God’s kingdom and His righteousness. Please forgive my lack of respect and recognition to your efforts for Christ.
\nThough we are supportive of new congregations of dedicated disciples, let me extend a heartfelt apology to the churches in Chicago, Phoenix and Kiev for giving the impression of a “blanket condemnation” that there were no disciples in them or that their congregations “were spiritually dead.” Please forgive me. I know that there are many “sold-out” disciples in these congregations. I am also aware that every church faces trials of many kinds, including Portland and these new congregations. These new congregations, the Portland leadership, and I would like to apologize for things that we have said or done that hurt you or discouraged you in your faith. Going forward, we will strive to avoid these mistakes and would like to work together as closely as possible to evangelize each city and the entire world.
\n… Please pray for me and my humility as well as my wisdom and boldness in preaching the Word.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

From a person who has felt targeted, excluded and condemned, if not directly then by association (or lack of association with Portland), Kip, I forgive you. This is one of the most humble things I’ve seen you write, and for that I’m encouraged. I will and have prayed for you that you will be humble and you will find a way to use your God given and amazing ability to motivate people for his glory and not your own. Kip, your zeal, passion and charisma is amazing and can do amazing good or amazing hurt. Find others in addition to Doug Arthur who will mentor you and have the courage to tell you the truth. It shouldn’t be hard, I think some 84 of them sent you a letter<\/a> a while back.
\nI will ask one thing, however. Please understand and bear with those of us who have been your critics in recent months. We’ve have seen apologies from you before along with declarations of the desire to be different. We may be ready to forgive, but hesitant to trust. Understand why and allow us room to find a way to trust. Most importantly, give us reasons to.<\/p>\n

But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing, he said to them: “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. And do not think you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.<\/p>\n

Mathew 3:7-10<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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