{"id":491,"date":"2006-05-11T11:49:02","date_gmt":"2006-05-11T11:49:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/salguod.net\/blog\/2006\/05\/time_to_grow_up.shtml"},"modified":"2021-05-29T02:46:46","modified_gmt":"2021-05-29T02:46:46","slug":"time_to_grow_up","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/salguod.net\/blog\/2006\/05\/time_to_grow_up.shtml","title":{"rendered":"Time to Grow Up"},"content":{"rendered":"

I came across this at Mike Cope’s blog<\/a> the other day:<\/p>\n

I’ve mentioned before the three views one can have of parents: a child’s view (my parents are perfect and have no faults); an adolescent’s view (my parents are embarrassing imbeciles); and a mature adult’s view (my parents have strengths and faults).
\nThose are the same views one can have of a religious heritage.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

It got me thinking of us ICOC & ex-ICOC folk.
\nIt seems to me that it’s time for us to grow up.
\nThere are some out there who are still children. The ICOC was all good, nothing wrong. The past 3 years were from Satan, a distraction and it’s time to get back to it. All of it – the discipling, the hierarchy, the evangelist control, the ‘we’re the kingdom’ mindset, everything.
\nOthers are like adolescents. There was never anything good in the ICOC. This is from folks who were immersed in it for years, but now it’s the spawn of Satan. Everything that comes out of an ICOC church is evil, their motives are selfish, they are out for your money and anyone still involved is dumber than a box of rocks and duped.
\nTime for some of us to grow up. Our ICOC heritage is a blessing and a curse. Many were saved, the gospel was preached, many nations were reached, HOPEworldwide<\/em> was formed, much good was done. But we must be honest, we were pretty stupid, arrogant, hurtful and even duped at times too. Let’s learn from our mistakes and even laugh at our former foolishness, but please, let’s not pretend it was only either a bed of roses or a torture chamber, OK?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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