{"id":101,"date":"2004-03-08T23:14:59","date_gmt":"2004-03-08T23:14:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/salguod.net\/blog\/2004\/03\/divisive_men.shtml"},"modified":"2021-05-29T02:48:46","modified_gmt":"2021-05-29T02:48:46","slug":"divisive_men","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/salguod.net\/blog\/2004\/03\/divisive_men.shtml","title":{"rendered":"Divisive Men"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/robert.williamsonline.us\/\">Dead Man Blogging<\/a> has <a href=\"http:\/\/robert.williamsonline.us\/archives\/000652.html\">a post <\/a> wondering how we can mange to get along as Christians in the online world.  He wonders how Romans 16:17-18; 2 Thessalonians 3:6; 1 Timothy 1:3-7; Titus 3:10-11 and Matthew 18:15-17 apply to those of us who know each other only by screen name and web address.  It&#8217;s a great question, and one which we frequently fail at in real life, let alone in the anonymity of the web.  From the content of his post and comment and the title of &#8216;Divisive Men&#8217;, he sound like one who has been hurt and does not know what to do next.<br \/>\nI&#8217;m relatively new to blogging, although I&#8217;ve been posting online at various forums for a while.  It is my contention that technology does not change basic Christian principals but that the Christian principals must be applied to technology.  In this case, the technology makes the possibility for hurt much more prominent.  In real life, we can read each other&#8217;s body language and tone of voice.  This communicates both ways, we understand the one speaking better and often the reactions to our words speak volumes about what was heard vs. what we meant.  Online there is none of that, and often what we type is put out for all to see hastily and we don&#8217;t go back for several hours or days to see what was posted next.<br \/>\nI think there&#8217;s a more fundamental truth at work here that is deeper than how to blog like Christ.  Christians tend to jump up and down over many things.  Gay marriage, divorce, violence in movies, materialism, home schooling, creationism, abortion \u2013 we all have our pet peeves as disciples.  I think that in our passion for these issues we often miss a big one; how we treat each other.  In our jumping up and down we trample over those who disagree, sometimes non-christians, sometimes our own brothers.  Didn&#8217;t Jesus say that we would be recognized by how we love, not our stand on the issues?  (John 13:34-35)  Look at 1 Corinthians 13:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nIf I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.<br \/>\nLove is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.<br \/>\nLove never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Prophecy, insight, knowledge, faith, generosity, and self sacrifice are all <I>worthless<\/I> without love.  Love (patience, kindness, humility, politeness, selflessness, forgiveness) is perfection.<br \/>\nI think that Matthew 18:15-17 is the key verse here in dealing with these things in love.  It is to me the foundational scripture on resolving conflict in the N.T. and ought to be the blueprint on it on our lives, including online.  Notice how it is structured to protect <I>the sinner<\/I> from public disgrace.  Privacy is paramount, giving the offender ample opportunity to repent before exposing him.  Only the most determined to sin, after the confrontation of 3-4 men, will be challenged publicly.  In the same way, if sinned against anywhere, including online, we must try to resolve those things privately first (by email) before chastising someone publicly in our own blog or the comments of another.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dead Man Blogging has a post wondering how we can mange to get along as Christians in the online world. 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